Theology for the Masses

November 16, 2006

Sin and the Cross

Filed under: Calvinism,creeds,Origional Sin,Problem of Evil,Salvation — Henry Imler @ 12:07 am

For some odd reason, people think that if anyone denies that one is sinful just for being born, they must necessarily also commit the heresy of Pelagius.

Pelagius held many beliefs and I think the one that Bob refers to as heretical is that Jesus was merely a good example for humans, as an exalted man and perhaps merely an exalted man. Furthermore, it seems that Bob thinks that if anyone denies original sin, they must also think that Jesus was merely an exalted man, an example to follow.

Let’s explore this bizarre and unstated reasoning a bit more, well, let’s just disprove it by giving an example where it is not the case.

I would say that humans are born innocent. That is, they are born with a clean slate. We are sure of three humans that were born this way, Adam, Eve, and Jesus. Once they have the ability to choose right from wrong, they are able to sin. We know that Adam and Eve ended up choosing to sin relatively soon after they had the ability to do so. Since then every human, save Christ has also chosen to sin, except for those that die before they are able to sin. It is most likely that there is an utter culture of sin that all humans have slipped up in once they have a choice in the matter. Christ was able to choose to sin or not to sin. Somehow, I would guess because of the strength of will that being God gave him, he chose to not sin. He was then unjustly crucified.

Because He was crucified unjustly He was able to be the perfect sacrifice that God’s justice demanded in place of our sins. God allowed Christ to bear our sin, rather than we having to bear the penalty for it ourselves, the very essence of substitutionary atonement. This view emphasizes the love of God, the justice of God, the humanity of Christ, the God-ness of Christ, and the struggle that it was for Christ to go through with it.

Just because He takes our punishment for us, does not mean that there must be some by-birth transference of sin from one person to another. I don’t even get why that is an issue.

There is an example of how one can hold to there not being original sin and still believe in substitutionary atonement. There is no Jesus merely being an exalted man here.

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1 Comment »

  1. Dear Henry Imler,
    According to the Scripture Adam was not borned nor was Eve. For it is only true of Jesus being the only begotten son of God. It is not the question of whether other humans are born innocent for it is the guaranteed fact that all natural born persons are not children of God they all die. Jn. 1:13. Therefore for the naturally born to be born again of God it is necessary for a lawful process to be perfected for the naturally born which will enable them to escape from death but every effort must be made to use it or you sin.

    I notice that you state “once they have the ability to choose right from wrong, they are able to sin.” Does this include you? For there is a problem in your thinking that the crucifixion of Jesus has been a substitution for you. There is no case in which any man’s life can be taken by bloodshed and the result not be having to account to God. Gen. 9:5 NIV. But God clarifies himself:

    “And from each man too I will
    demand an accounting for the
    life of your fellow man.”

    What you don’t understand is that the law of God has been changed, Heb. 7:12, only in regard to Jesus’ crucifixion having been the unjustifiable action of taking the life of God’s only begotten son by bloodshed. For the Acts 2:38 command can only be obeyed by the faith of confessing directly to God that you are sorry Jesus was crucified or you sin. The natural born cannot be born of God by any other process.
    “For it is not those who hear the law that are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.”

    Comment by Theodore A. Jones — January 21, 2009 @ 5:44 pm | Reply


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